Hidden Teaming

[DoctorFinkle]

(05-01-2021, 03:59 AM)Redfox Wrote: 1. Mindless and Supergirl dominated the predecessor server that allowed teaming. They prove the server wasn’t balanced. So much that a new server needed to be made.

The old server also had powerups, so the amount of mass the player in first place had at any given time was much larger than it is now. The first phase of the “solo” server had an inaccurate anti-teaming algorithm and the current phase of the “solo” server has moderators. I do not think that teaming has really been given a fair chance yet.

(05-01-2021, 03:59 AM)Redfox Wrote: That wouldn’t be a big problem if there were 2 servers but if there is only one it’s going to be a big problem.

If there are 2 servers, they would both likely be more disbalanced than it is now. Most experienced players will likely stay in the “solo” server, and few players will be experienced enough to fight the teams in the regular server. Meanwhile, teaming will still go on in the “solo” server, circling back to the point of this thread. What Agf needs is a smooth gradient of skill levels for new players to progress, and the only way to accomplish that is by combining players of all levels and playstyles. The “solo” players have been training in their server for over a year and a half now, so this new server should not be too difficult of a switch.

(05-01-2021, 03:59 AM)Redfox Wrote: Only two people stated they want a teaming Agf server, no one else did. Why are u so sure that your idea is representing the opinion of the majority?

Most of Agf's most experienced players are skilled enough to beat teams by themselves without the help of moderators. The problem right now is that it is very easy for a team to dominate a "solo" server where many players refuse to team (in its traditional sense). A truly balanced server needs teams to be able to prevent other teams from taking over without having to be hidden about it. Currently, there are several periods throughout the day where the server is dead. During these periods, players should be able to splitrun to preserve the server’s mass and prevent it from decaying into nothingness. They should also be able to team on players from other servers who come to sweep the server’s mass just for it to decay in the secret rooms. This way, there is always enough mass on the map to keep the server dynamic throughout the day.

I think that this server would represent the opinion of the majority because even though a team is naturally stronger than a “solo” player of the same skill level, many of the “solo” players have the skill and experience on their side. An even split of “solo” players and teamers on the server would give each side an equal chance, meaning whichever side has more players at a given time would be more powerful, and this would fluctuate throughout the day. Moderators do not know what is best for the majority, the majority does. I think we should keep both servers up for 2 weeks and then only have the regular server up for 2 weeks and compare the results. Like I said, I do not think that teaming has really been given a fair chance yet. If this server is tried out and turns out to not be balanced, it would most likely be due to some other underlying issue, not that teams are simply “just too strong”. Other adjustments can always be made if necessary, but we’ll cross that bridge when we get there. We need to change one variable at a time, and currently, the most important variable to change is the rules of the server.



Personally, I would still be a mostly solo player (in its traditional sense). I enjoy participating in large solo battles as well as fighting big teams. The real problem right now is one of the most abusive forms of teaming that never seems to get dealt with, and that is targeting. It is difficult for me to play casually with other players when I have someone constantly targeting me. I should not be forced to savage the other players and cause them to close out the game just to save myself. I should be able to use any form of teaming with other players to defend myself. The targeter would see this and maybe get a teammate as well, and at that point it is fair game. A degree of teaming will always exist in any server and thus requires a degree of teaming to counter it.